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Savers Being Hung Out To Dry

What was it that Donald Rumsfeld said? “We know, there are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns the ones we don’t know we don’t know.”

In the recent press conference for the release of the Bank of England’s Quarterly Inflation report, Mervyn King showed a close empathy with Mr Rumsfeld. He very clearly explained what facts that he and the Monetary Policy Committee (MPC) did know and what they didn’t know, as well as what they couldn’t possibly know. The point of this was to stress the uncertainty of factors that the MPC must weigh up in coming to their decision. … Continue Reading

Shouldn’t it be the Government’s duty to protect the value of its citizens’ savings?

Saving Our Savings

Several months ago I attended an event where Steve Webb, the Minister for Pensions, opened by saying:

“The worse advocates of pensions and savings are retired people who say to their children and grandchildren: ‘I wish I’d never saved. My neighbours got this and that, while I saved and got none of it’.

“There is such a lot of resentment. And the resentment where people who made the effort to save don’t get rewarded is huge. They are the sales force for not saving. We need to tackle that and make sure that people who have savings make themselves better off.”

It was a short speech that went on to talk about auto-enrolment into pension schemes, raising the basic state pension to a level above the benefit threshold, creating a competitive open market for annuities and the necessity to increase retirement age to make state pensions affordable.

Much of this is potentially good news; ensuring people have adequate savings and income to cover their retirement is a win, win, win situation. The first win, because our home grown savings provide an important stable source of capital for the economy; the second, because you will be more comfortably off and financially secure in your retirement and the third because having a retired population who have money to spend is much better for the economy and society than one that doesn’t. … Continue Reading

Dear Saver, If you can spend do, but if you are suffering we are sorry but its for the best

Bank of England

We know that after Charlie Bean’s admission on the Channel 4 news that it was the direct intention of the Bank of England’s policy to get savers to spend by reducing interest rates, upset a great many people. Some of whom took the trouble of writing to the Bank of England to vent their anger and disagreement with the policy.

Below is the reply that one of our supporters received and attached is a strikingly similar one sent to another.

If you would like to view a short clip from the interview and judge for yourself whether Charlie Bean’s comments were taken out of context as suggested in the letter please click here.

Dear …….

Thank you for your e-mail of 28 September to the Governor and Mr Bean, regarding the recent comments by the Deputy Governor, Charlie Bean, during an interview on Channel 4 News. This has now been passed to me for reply.

The Deputy Governor was asked by Channel 4 to explain the impact on savers of the monetary policy measures taken by the Bank of England in response to the sharp contraction of the economy in the wake of the financial crisis.  I am sorry that you feel that Mr Bean’s remarks were provocative and insensitive.  I can assure you that this was not his intention. I should also add that many of the reports of what the Deputy Governor has said have been misleading or incomplete and, of course, his responses were not broadcast in their entirety. Let me explain.

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Bank of England admits that its policy is to penalise savers

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In an interview for Channel 4 news Charlie Bean, the Deputy Governor of the Bank of England, has made it clear that the Bank’s policy is that people should spend, not save and that the Bank has no intention to act to encourage saving maybe for as long as the next decade.

However he admits in the interview that preceding the financial crisis the UK was not saving enough. According to Mr Bean the Bank of England had been saying for years that more saving was needed in order to rebalance the economy. It is certainly true, in the years preceding September 2008 the UK savings ratio averaged 3.2%, by far its lowest levels since the 1950’s.  But it begs the question: why did they not act to encourage saving rather than wait until it was too late? The answer is probably because the Bank of England is not responsible for managing the level of saving in the economy and as far as I know there is no government target in place for the savings ratio and it is not actively managed at all. … Continue Reading

Bank of England’s Mr Bean lets cat out of the bag

SaveOurSavers Egg

Channel 4 news at 7pm tonight (27th Sept) will include an interview with Charlie Bean, the deputy Governor, of the Bank of England.

In the interview Mr Bean shows the Bank of England’s true attitude towards savers and makes it quite clear thet the current economic policy is designed to disincentivise saving, he also said “I would certainly not expect the level of bank rate to stay very close to zero for a decade or more.”

Below is a short clip from the interview

A couple of quotes from the interview…

Faisal Islam Deputy Governor do you accept that one of the side effects of your policy over the last two years is that savers have been hit really badly?

Charlie Bean Well I wouldn’t want to call it a side effect I think it is important to realise that actually it is a key way that monetary policy affects the economy by affecting the incentive to save. When we cut bank rate it reduces the incentive to save it gets households to spend more it also encourages businesses to go out and invest more. So when we need to pump more demand into the economy what we do is lower the bank rate when we need to cool the economy we do the opposite so I emphasise it is not really that it’s a side effect.

Faisal IslamIt does seems a little contradictory when we hear so much about rebalancing the economy towards a high saving high investment economy away from the go-go years of too much borrowing that the incentive save has never been poorer… Continue Reading

30 Billion reasons for savers to fight back

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Interest rates have been at rock bottom for savers since March 2009. They started to fall shortly after the Lehman Brothers crash in September 2008. Six months later the Base Rate had been brought down in stages to 0.5%. Savings rates had followed it down to a level on a par with the ones shown below for July 2010.

At the end of July 2010 there was £1.082 trillion of cash savings deposited in the UK. A trillion is a difficult number to grasp, so to put it another way that is £1,082,222 million (yes, a million million) of cash deposits.

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Is it self-interest that stops the Government ensuring savers receive fair returns?

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At the recent press conference for the publication of the Bank of England’s Quarterly Inflation report, Mervyn King, the Governor, defended the recent lending record of banks – fewer loans at increased rates – by referring to the high costs banks were facing in obtaining funds.

This statement might raise a few eyebrows amongst UK savers, who have over £1 trillion deposited with banks and building societies. They are a major source of the funds that are lent out, but are currently receiving the lowest interest rates they can remember.

Banks raise the money they lend out from two main sources: either retail deposits, which are our savings, or the wholesale funding markets, ie from other financial institutions, companies, councils etc. Up until recently the cost of borrowing these wholesale funds has been more expensive compared to pre-crisis levels and also compared to retail deposits, perhaps explaining Mr King’s assertion. … Continue Reading

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The Great Savings Scandal

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Total £485Bn
Average interest 1.01%

ISAs
Total £214Bn
Average interest 0.64%

Time Deposits
Total £315Bn
Average interest 2.77%

Non Interest Bearing £113Bn

Total savings £1.127 Trillion
Average interest 1.33%

INFLATION RPI 3.6% CPI 3.4%

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